Robin Hood was right!
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Robin Hood was right!
Robin Hood was right - taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is the best way to reduce poverty in the world!
Do you agree?
Do you agree?
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Re: Robin Hood was right!
It would work in the middle ages, now the time changed and a man like Robin Hood called robber. :)TP wrote:Robin Hood was right - taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is the best way to reduce poverty in the world!
Do you agree?
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Stealing is stealing despite the time differences, to me.Xkalibur wrote:It would work in the middle ages, now the time changed and a man like Robin Hood called robber. :)TP wrote:Robin Hood was right - taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is the best way to reduce poverty in the world!
Do you agree?
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That's what I always say (it's a Chinese proverb, right? ;)) Giving is not enough, because what you give will end eventually. We should help the poor in other ways. Governments should play a central role here. But as always they are more interested in their own benefit.mamuta wrote:...the best way is not to give a fish, but give a fishing-rod, isn't it?
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Robin Hood was right!
I agree that a rich person should help a poorer one if the second one is not able to help oneself ( in cases of illness, disaster, etc. ), but taking money from the rich- we are not in the Middle Ages. Everyone should take care of one's own life and one's own developement(social and mental), and not always to rely on the Government. Taking money from the rich should always be an act of free will in the purposes of giving charity. :)
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as long as when that rich person agrees to donate his/her money.nadiaSV wrote:I agree that a rich person should help a poorer one if the second one is not able to help oneself ( in cases of illness, disaster, etc. ), but taking money from the rich- we are not in the Middle Ages. Everyone should take care of one's own life and one's own developement(social and mental), and not always to rely on the Government. Taking money from the rich should always be an act of free will in the purposes of giving charity. :)
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I agree with all the opinions that has been given here, because at the end of the day , stealing is stealing no matter how you want you call it. If you take something that don´t belong to you, even to do something as noble as helping poor people, that`s called robbery in any era, period.
For the other hand, I don´t believe that using this "tactic" you will reduce poverty in the world. Generally speaking, It has been proven that poverty can be reduced giving poor people the same opportunities than the wealthy people, especially in education. Also, more jobs opportunities should be created, and to achieve this, countries should manage to attract as much investments as they possibly can.
In any case taking money for rich....
For the other hand, I don´t believe that using this "tactic" you will reduce poverty in the world. Generally speaking, It has been proven that poverty can be reduced giving poor people the same opportunities than the wealthy people, especially in education. Also, more jobs opportunities should be created, and to achieve this, countries should manage to attract as much investments as they possibly can.
In any case taking money for rich....
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Robin Hoood was somehow right because money is a problem for both the rich and the poor. The poor are hungry, naked and sick because they don't have money. The rich are sad and stressed and loathed because they have money.
Also, whenever you look for the reasons behind the problems that plague todays world you usually find that poverty is the cause number one. It is the cause of illiteracy, of unemployment, of deforestation, of diseases, of divorce and the sky is the limit. (Noureddine Boutahar: Morocco)
Also, whenever you look for the reasons behind the problems that plague todays world you usually find that poverty is the cause number one. It is the cause of illiteracy, of unemployment, of deforestation, of diseases, of divorce and the sky is the limit. (Noureddine Boutahar: Morocco)
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You sound don't get my point. I only want to say that at that time, he's right cause the riches're wrong. If the rich earn money by a good way, Robin is wrong. But they didn't (I just mention the ones whom R took the money). If the rich can offer good conditions and be kind with the poor to give them a "fish rod", then of course, there'll never have such a "Robinhood". Now I think there're qualified courts to consider if a rich earn money by positive way or not, so there's no need a "Robinhood" to judge them. ![:wink:](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f609.svg)
How to help the poor? I think the best way is to try not to be as poor as them. :D
How to help the poor? I think the best way is to try not to be as poor as them. :D
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Robin Hood took only back what rich had taken from the poors. It was right. But nowadays it is hard, maybe impossible to point one person and say "it is his fault that I am poor" and that it why I can not see that there could be new Robin Hood.
And also, why to just point out the guilty ones when whe should do something by ourselves? There are many ways to help poors to get the fishing-rod. For exemple there are many organisations that gives money for childrens education in Africa or some where else. And I believe that no one of us is so poor that we could not give any money to them. But much easier is to talk about the reasons why the riches does not act.
Okay, don't get me wrong. I really appreciate this conversation, it has really good opinions in it and it is really interesting. And I can not judge any one, because for my own shame I am still one of those who just speaks and does not act. But I am learning at this time not to use so much money for vain things, because when I have learnt it I can give money to those who really needs it. I have not yet done anything, but I try to remind me that I should and I really hope that I will.
That is because I believe that the best thing to do to help the poor ones, is to try to make things different and I think the most powerful thing to do that is to show exemple in humans own life.
And of course, before acting human has to talk and think things, because if people acted without talking and thinking, the act could and probably be just one big catastrophe.
Sorry for really long text. And thank you for really good conversation and opinions.
And also, why to just point out the guilty ones when whe should do something by ourselves? There are many ways to help poors to get the fishing-rod. For exemple there are many organisations that gives money for childrens education in Africa or some where else. And I believe that no one of us is so poor that we could not give any money to them. But much easier is to talk about the reasons why the riches does not act.
Okay, don't get me wrong. I really appreciate this conversation, it has really good opinions in it and it is really interesting. And I can not judge any one, because for my own shame I am still one of those who just speaks and does not act. But I am learning at this time not to use so much money for vain things, because when I have learnt it I can give money to those who really needs it. I have not yet done anything, but I try to remind me that I should and I really hope that I will.
That is because I believe that the best thing to do to help the poor ones, is to try to make things different and I think the most powerful thing to do that is to show exemple in humans own life.
And of course, before acting human has to talk and think things, because if people acted without talking and thinking, the act could and probably be just one big catastrophe.
Sorry for really long text. And thank you for really good conversation and opinions.
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Dixie wrote:That's what I always say (it's a Chinese proverb, right? ;)) Giving is not enough, because what you give will end eventually. We should help the poor in other ways. Governments should play a central role here. But as always they are more interested in their own benefit.mamuta wrote:...the best way is not to give a fish, but give a fishing-rod, isn't it?
Dearest Dixie, I'm one with you. Someone has to teach the poor to live (this is the meaning of giving a fishing rod), so that they won't feel hungry for the rest of their lives. But, because of the diversification of opinions, others don't perceive this as lessons to be learned and applied. Others will think of this approach (teach and learn to live) as selfishness, (partly because of some belief that emerged within each individual as he/she goes on with his/her life). There are some who doesn't care about the future at all, they only think of the present (sometimes the circumstances just don't allow them to think of their future).
Anyway, (I'm already far from the topic about the righteousness of Robin Hood) going back to the topic, we are all in constant search for truth... we really don't know who's correct. Under the law of man, it's a crime.
For the time being we may be lost, but I'm quite sure we'll all find the truth later on. And whatever truth we are nurturing within us at present, just don't forget one ingredient, sincerity.
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I agree with you very much. There is an old Chinese saying "Give a man fish, he will have a meal; teach a man to fish, he will have food all his life." We ought to teach the poors to develop themselves, not only give them the money simply .mamuta wrote:...the best way is not to give a fish, but give a fishing-rod, isn't it?
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There is almost one billion humans every day sleep with out a single meal in the present world 21 century. And it is agreeable with most of the opinions to teach the poor to develop. BUT we can't ignore there IMMIDIATE NEEDS like food, shelter etc, unfortunately which still we are???
I tend not to refuse any needy person and give help to my best whom ever ask, if I have got any money with me at that time immidiately. And this is what WE are taught in general!
I tend not to refuse any needy person and give help to my best whom ever ask, if I have got any money with me at that time immidiately. And this is what WE are taught in general!
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I DISAGREE, because people rely on gossips so robbers end up robbing the poor people too. Especially those quiet people who's been trying so hard to face their own problems silently.TalkingPoint wrote:Robin Hood was right - taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is the best way to reduce poverty in the world!
Do you agree?
There is nothing wrong being rich and I for one is dreaming to be rich but I do not believe in getting rich by cheating and being dishonest and selfish. I do not believe in putting a relative or other people's life in trouble just to be rich. I believe in climbing up while helping others too because no one will get to the level of life where they are now without the help of the other people within his/her circle of friends or community. While climbing to a higher level in life, I also believe in helping those people who do not help me or in some ways have hurt me because that's the role they prefer to take to help you exert more effort to move on to your dreams. And for those who keep on hurting and criticizing others, I think it is just a sign that they just want to be noticed and seen too so that help will be given to them.
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If you want to solve poverty, discuss the issue with the rich people. Why robbed them... I am quite sure there are a lot of rich people out there who sincerely want to help for a good cause. No need to cheat, it might just create a never ending trouble.
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Re: Robin Hood was right!
I don't think being robin hood will end the poverty. you need to fix the system first. you must guarantee the contunity of equality. otherwise, there will always exist poorer and richer people.
we all don't have the same opportunities to be rich. there are economic, social and cultural differences. if we accept that we are all born with equal rights, we should have the same opportunities. but obviously we don't. that means rich people always steal from poor people already. because they are always born more lucky.
plus, to become rich, you need to steal from other people. for example, even if you earn a lot, you always pay your workers just a little amount. you need to hire more people for your business to be done, but you don't. then, your worker work harder and harder, but you pay him again the same amount or a little bit more.
there are more reasons, like personality... personality is also important to get a job. if you are not good at marketing yourself, you have more trouble with finding job.
there are also bigger economical-political issues , like capitalism itself makes some parts of the world poorer and doesn't let them to get richer.
anyway, i think we are all born with equal rights but don't have the same chances. that makes the world worse and worse. also, being robin hood will not solve the problems. we should first believe deeply that people are equal. but i know that it's a utopia. people are selfish inside their mind and soul.
we all don't have the same opportunities to be rich. there are economic, social and cultural differences. if we accept that we are all born with equal rights, we should have the same opportunities. but obviously we don't. that means rich people always steal from poor people already. because they are always born more lucky.
plus, to become rich, you need to steal from other people. for example, even if you earn a lot, you always pay your workers just a little amount. you need to hire more people for your business to be done, but you don't. then, your worker work harder and harder, but you pay him again the same amount or a little bit more.
there are more reasons, like personality... personality is also important to get a job. if you are not good at marketing yourself, you have more trouble with finding job.
there are also bigger economical-political issues , like capitalism itself makes some parts of the world poorer and doesn't let them to get richer.
anyway, i think we are all born with equal rights but don't have the same chances. that makes the world worse and worse. also, being robin hood will not solve the problems. we should first believe deeply that people are equal. but i know that it's a utopia. people are selfish inside their mind and soul.
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Re: Robin Hood was right!
Ideally, it is still bad to steal. What Robinhood is doing is making a lesser evil to do a greater good.
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I do not agree that taking from the rich giving it to the poor is the best way to reduce poverty in the world. Yes, it may work for some time. But poor people should work to earn money and the rich people should provide them jobs.
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